Not to be a stick in the mud...but I cannot get the ICAO and WMO linkage
for use of METARs. And ergo WIS2.0. ICAO-land (most of the world) looks at
METARs as a revenue source. Fee for service etc, except the US. And that's
a problem. For context...take a look at the Guide to the WMO Information
System (Doc 1061) From 2024. Or
https://library.wmo.int/records/item/69130-guide-to-the-wmo-information-system-volume-ii?language_id=13&back=&offset=
And going through pages 36 to 40...it's just not clear how/if WIS2.0 will
be carrying METARs. Maybe some States will play, but others will not,
based on fee for service.
Finally with AI...WIS2.0 should have an AI front end that I can just say
what I want, and if it is available, it asks what format I'd like. Yes,
call me lazy for not wanting to crack open the WIS2.0 box, but many folks
are busier than a one-armed paper hanger to figure it out. So let's AI that
thing. Else WIS2.0 will continue to lag.
I scanned those links Mike (appreciate that) btw...and saw a reference to
WMO IDs. Yeah they are not going away anytime soon. AFS/AMHS is still king
in ICAO-Land, so I would say they will dominate for at least another 10
years.
One other thing...the US is getting closer to sending IWXXM OPMET
internationally via AMHS. Maybe 5 years late, but that's just the way it
is. Most of Europe is there...SE Asia is getting there. Most of North and
South America are still lagging wrt IWXXM.
Mike G.
On Sun, Nov 2, 2025 at 9:47 PM Mike Zuranski <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Greetings all,
>
> I am writing this email to convey my support for NSF Unidata to continue
> to investigate the WIS 2.0 paradigm and how it can be leveraged for our
> community.
>
> It is likely no surprise to many here that I've been keeping a keen eye
> out for how our corner of the industry has been progressing, and this WIS2
> stuff... man... I'm sold, it is the future. A metadata push service could
> be mighty powerful as our technology and relating ecosystems continue to
> evolve.
>
> I've noticed that both the future of the SBN as well as the potential for
> WIS2 have been discussed in recent NSF Unidata Committee meetings, and I
> was very pleased to see WIS2 being taken seriously by Unidata. Personally,
> I think the sooner we can adopt into this paradigm the better off we could
> be, but it's still in its infancy as not much data [US at least] seems to
> be getting published to global brokers to date. That's okay though, there
> is still time for us to learn before it goes into operations.
>
> I've been playing around with WIS2 "in a box" myself recently, and was
> pleasantly surprised to see how straight-forward the WMO has made the
> install and the plethora of solid documentation that exists. In addition,
> there is an included a web gui to make configuration and incorporating data
> sets that much easier. Plus there are multiple avenues to pushing a data
> set's metadata into a WIS2 message, and with a little effort I believe this
> would fit _very_ well into our use cases within Academia.
>
> Given the recent NSF Unidata Committee summaries I'm linking below, the
> general direction the winds are blowing, and given my own experiences with
> WIS2 thus far, I would like to petition Unidata to make investigating what
> the WIS2 Paradigm can do for our community a priority. I think that if
> Unidata could spin up a public WIS2 node, maybe work on a GTS to WIS2
> conversion to supply data... and even back so WIS2 could feed the IDD (as
> was suggested in the Fall 2025 committee staff report)... there would be a
> lot of value of us there. I completely understand shifting priorities in
> times and situations such as these is a delicate thing. I am merely
> voicing my opinion that this is a direction we should be exploring with
> vigor.
>
> This has been two cents given by yours truly, hope y'all are doin well.
>
> Best,
> -Mike
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSyUyB3TKkfnLmlqGz9FK7TCM1mAWGAAzOJLxUXj5hQfn7ONwBqe6rRmnQ90WwqzcISMS3AXwZLZirI/pub
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vQ9Y8oq7nMnE8Wei28xoS4uzldP14wWVpxZdE29eWC8nn-GCCO3s2GxZlKBMOPgXAaiN-RC7xAKdmZd/pub?pli=1
> https://www.unidata.ucar.edu/committees/joint_meetings/2025Fall/summary
>
> https://www.unidata.ucar.edu/committees/joint_meetings/2025Fall/statusreports
> https://docs.wis2box.wis.wmo.int/en
>
>
> --
> - Mike Zuranski, Zuranski Weather LLC
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