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Hello,There are known problems with the GEMPAK nagrib2 decoder for proper GRIB2 messages containing probabilities of exceeding thresholds for some parameters, specifically snow accumulations in the case of HPC's new experimental probabilistic winter precipitation forecasts (PWPF). The problem lies in the conversion of the threshold value stored in the GRIB2 PDS to a character string interpolated into the parameter name. For snowfall, GRIB2 requires units of meters, requiring a scaling factor of 4 for the threshold, resulting in values too small to appear as nonzero in the parameter name. Hence, all the exceedance probability grids are assigned the same parameter name. Since HPC is producing valid GRIB2 messages, we plan no changes to our product generation. This problem does not occur for freezing rain. Here is a suggested work-around for GEMPAK users (I admit, I have not actually tried it.):
1. Break the monolithic grid file into individual GRIB2 messages
using wgrib2 (http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/wesley/wgrib2/)
2. Run each GRIB2 message separately through nagrib2, producing
separate GEMPAK grid files.
3. Run gddiag to change the parameter names and write the grids to a
single GEMPAK grid file.
When running nagrib2, set the G2TBLS as follows: G2TBLS =
g2varlcl.tbl;g2varlcl.tbl, where g2varlcl.tbl is a file having these
contents:
! ! Snowfall (thresholds in m) exceedance probabilities: ! !D# CT# ID# PDT#000 001 029 009 Snowfall Prob > 1 inch 0->1 PS-- 0 -9999.00
! ! Freezing rain (thresholds in mm) accumulation exceedance probabilities: !000 001 225 009 ZR Accum Prob > .01 inch 0->1 PZ-- 0 -9999.00
I hope this information is helpful. Keith ============================= david.novak@xxxxxxxx wrote:
Not sure if you're on the gembud mailing list, but saw this post about the snow probs. I don't think it was resolved. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Subject: [gembud] adding info to tables From: Jeff Lake - Admin <admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 07:47:17 -0500 To: gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx good morning,I'm trying to muddle my way creating images using the experimental snow probability gribs from the HPCftp://ftp.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/pwpf/conus/pwpf_24hr/ using dcgrib2 to convert to gem I get the following [2213] 110116/1224[GB 1] No GEMPAK parameter name defined for this grid.[2213] 110116/1224[DECODE_GRIB2 -34] Could not determine parameter name 0 1 29 9 [0][2213] 110116/1224[GB 1] No GEMPAK parameter name defined for this grid.[2213] 110116/1224[DECODE_GRIB2 -34] Could not determine parameter name 0 1 29 9 [0][2213] 110116/1224[GB 1] No GEMPAK parameter name defined for this grid.[2213] 110116/1224[DECODE_GRIB2 -34] Could not determine parameter name 0 1 29 9 [0][2213] 110116/1224[GB 1] No GEMPAK parameter name defined for this grid.[2213] 110116/1224[DECODE_GRIB2 -34] Could not determine parameter name 0 1 29 9 [0][2213] 110116/1224[GB 1] No GEMPAK parameter name defined for this grid.[2213] 110116/1224[DECODE_GRIB2 -34] Could not determine parameter name 0 1 29 9 [0][2213] 110116/1224[GB 1] No GEMPAK parameter name defined for this grid.[2213] 110116/1224[DECODE_GRIB2 -34] Could not determine parameter name 0 1 29 9 [0][2213] 110116/1224[GB 1] No GEMPAK parameter name defined for this grid.[2213] 110116/1224[DECODE_GRIB2 -34] Could not determine parameter name 0 1 29 9 [0][2213] 110116/1224[DC 5] Normal termination. [2213] 110116/1224[DC 2] Number of bulletins read and processed: 7 [2213] 110116/1224[DC 6] Shutting down.looking at that, studying the 'tables/grid/g2varswmo2.tbl' using DeGRIB I added the following to the g2varswmo2.tbl000 001 029 009 24 hr Prob of Total snowfall % ProbASNOW24 ? -9999.00well now no errors in the log, it does create the gem file but when I do a gdinfo on it... the output file is empty so something isn't correct do I need to add the definition somewhere else ?? thanks -Jeff _______________________________________________ gembud mailing list gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxFor list information or to unsubscribe, visit: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/mailing_lists/
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