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Re: [ldm-users] MADIS Data

Kevin

I've got a couple of days of MADIS, and will freeze what I have if you need
the last 48 hours.

gerry


On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Kevin W. Thomas <kwthomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> wrote:

> Ryan...
>
> That one still works, so I'm getting data again.
>
> Thanks!
>
>         == kwthomas ==
>
> >Kevin,
> >
> >No problem. My old entry to ldm.madis-data.noaa.gov continues to work
> just
> >fine though. You could try that hostname if you were using
> >ldm.madis-data.nws.noaa.gov before. Though ldm.madis-data.noaa.gov
> appears
> >to point at ESRL so you probably won't have any luck doing so.
> >
> >I'm in the same boat as you with the new LDM at ldm.madis.ncep.noaa.gov.
> No
> >error messages but also nothing useful coming from a 'notifyme' to that
> >host.
> >
> >On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Kevin W. Thomas <
> kwthomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Ryan...
> >>
> >> Thanks for the document.  Unfortunately, ldm.madis.ncep.noaa.gov
> doesn't
> >> work for me.  "notifyme" doesn't show anything useful, so it sounds like
> >> my accounted didn't get ported over.
> >>
> >>         Kevin W. Thomas
> >>         Center for Analysis and Prediction of Storms
> >>         University of Oklahoma
> >>         Norman, Oklahoma
> >>         Email:  kwthomas@xxxxxx
> >>
> >> >See below.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >660
> >> >NOUS41 KWBC 222057
> >> >PNSWSH
> >> >
> >> >Service Change Notice 15-01
> >> >National Weather Service Headquarters Washington DC
> >> >355 PM EDT Thu Jan 22 2015
> >> >
> >> >TO:       Subscribers:
> >> >          - Family of Services
> >> >          - NOAA Weather Wire Service
> >> >          - Emergency Managers Weather Information Network
> >> >          - NOAAPORT
> >> >          Other NWS Partners and NWS Employees
> >> >
> >> >From:     Tim McClung
> >> >          Chief, NWS Science Plans Branch
> >> >          Office of Science and Technology
> >> >
> >> >SUBJECT:  Change of the MADIS Distribution Services effective
> >> >          Wednesday, January 21, 2015
> >> >
> >> >Starting on Wednesday, January 21, 2015, beginning at 1200
> >> >Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), all MADIS distribution services
> >> >(LDM, web services, and FTP) have new NCO access points.
> >> >
> >> >The MADIS LDM servers at ldm.madis-data.noaa.gov and ldm.madis-
> >> >data.nws.noaa.gov at GSD and the NWS TOC will be changed to:
> >> >
> >> >ldm.madis.ncep.noaa.gov
> >> >
> >> >The MADIS web services being provided at
> >> >https://madis-data.nws.noaa.gov
> >> >https://madis-data.noaa.gov
> >> >
> >> >will be replaced with the following services at
> >> >
> >> >https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov
> >> >
> >> >MADIS surface dumps:
> >> >https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/public/sfcdumpguest.html
> >> >https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/public/sfcdump.html
> >> >https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/public2/sfcdump.html
> >> >https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/research/sfcdump.html
> >> >https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/noaa/sfcdump.html
> >> >
> >> >MADIS surface hydological dumps:
> >> >https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/public/hydrodumpguest.html
> >> >https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/public/hydrodump.html
> >> >https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/public2/hydrodump.html
> >> >https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/research/hydrodump.html
> >> >https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/noaa/hydrodump.html
> >> >
> >> >MADIS surface display:
> >> >https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/MadisSurface
> >> >
> >> >MADIS MAP/CAP displays:
> >> >https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/cap
> >> >
> >> >The MADIS public FTP access points websites: pftp.madis-
> >> >data.noaa.gov and pftp.madis-data.nws.noaa.gov will be changed to
> >> >the new NCEP ftp access point:
> >> >
> >> >madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov
> >> >
> >> >The MADIS restricted FTP access is now provided through web
> >> >services on the NCO MADIS systems. Please contact madis-
> >> >support@xxxxxxxx if you need help with this transition.
> >> >
> >> >The MADIS teams at GSD and NCO have tried an ensure all firewall
> >> >rules are in place for users but need to work with the users to
> >> >verify that data ingest to user sites is not interrupted during
> >> >the operational transition.
> >> >
> >> >The current operational instance of MADIS running at GSD and the
> >> >NWS Telecommunication Operation Center (TOC) are schedule to be
> >> >decommissioned starting March 31, 2015, at which time users that
> >> >have not transitioned will no longer be able to receive MADIS
> >> >data. Please work with us to help avoid data disruptions to your
> >> >sites.
> >> >
> >> >If you have any questions or concerns please, contact
> >> >
> >> >madis-support@xxxxxxxx.
> >> >
> >> >If you have technical comments or questions, please contact:
> >> >
> >> >Steven Pritchett
> >> >NWS OST MADIS Program Manager
> >> >NOAA/NWS/OST/PPD Science Plans Branch
> >> >Silver Spring, MD 20910
> >> >Steven.pritchett@xxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> >National Public Information Statements are online at:
> >> >
> >> >   http://www.weather.gov/os/notif.htm
> >> >
> >> >$$
> >> >
> >> >On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Kevin W. Thomas <
> >> kwthomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Please do.
> >> >>
> >> >>         == kwthomas ==
> >> >>
> >> >> >MADIS was transferred from NWS TOC to NWS IDP. I can send you the
> >> >> announcement tomorrow, if you need info on how to switch over.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >John Kelley
> >> >> >NOAA/NOS/MMAP
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Sent from my iPhone
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Apr 2, 2015, at 7:47 PM, Kevin W. Thomas <
> >> >> kwthomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hi...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I just discovered my LDM MADIS datafeed stopped right around 12Z
> >> >> yesterday.
> >> >> >> I have two machines running LDM.  Both have the same problem.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Does anyone else have problems?  Has there been a change that I
> hear
> >> >> about?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>    Kevin W. Thomas
> >> >> >>    Center for Analysis and Prediction of Storms
> >> >> >>    University of Oklahoma
> >> >> >>    Norman, Oklahoma
> >> >> >>    Email:  kwthomas@xxxxxx
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> ldm-users mailing list
> >> >> >> ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> For list information or to unsubscribe,  visit:
> >> >> http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/mailing_lists/
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>
> >
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> >
> ><div dir=3D"ltr">Kevin,<div><br></div><div>No problem. My old entry to <a
> h=
> >ref=3D"http://ldm.madis-data.noaa.gov";>ldm.madis-data.noaa.gov</a>
> continue=
> >s to work just fine though. You could try that hostname if you were using=
> >=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://ldm.madis-data.nws.noaa.gov
> ">ldm.madis-data.nws.noa=
> >a.gov</a> before. Though <a href=3D"http://ldm.madis-data.noaa.gov
> ">ldm.mad=
> >is-data.noaa.gov</a> appears to point at ESRL so you probably won&#39;t
> hav=
> >e any luck doing so.<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m in the same boat as you
> wit=
> >h the new LDM at <a href=3D"http://ldm.madis.ncep.noaa.gov
> ">ldm.madis.ncep.=
> >noaa.gov</a>. No error messages but also nothing useful coming from a
> &#39;=
> >notifyme&#39; to that host.</div></div></div><div
> class=3D"gmail_extra"><br=
> >><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Kevin W.
> Thomas=
> > <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kwthomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
> targe=
> >t=3D"_blank">kwthomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;</span>
> wrote:<br><blockquo=
> >te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
> so=
> >lid;padding-left:1ex">Ryan...<br>
> ><br>
> >Thanks for the document.=C2=A0 Unfortunately, <a href=3D"
> http://ldm.madis.n=
> >cep.noaa.gov" target=3D"_blank">ldm.madis.ncep.noaa.gov</a>
> doesn&#39;t<br>
> >work for me.=C2=A0 &quot;notifyme&quot; doesn&#39;t show anything useful,
> s=
> >o it sounds like<br>
> >my accounted didn&#39;t get ported over.<br>
> ><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Kevin W. Thomas<br>
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Center for Analysis and Prediction of
> Storms<br=
> >>
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 University of Oklahoma<br>
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Norman, Oklahoma<br>
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Email:=C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:
> kwthomas@xxxxxx"=
> >>kwthomas@xxxxxx</a><br>
> ><br>
> >&gt;See below.<br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;--<br>
> >&gt;660<br>
> >&gt;NOUS41 KWBC 222057<br>
> >&gt;PNSWSH<br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;Service Change Notice 15-01<br>
> >&gt;National Weather Service Headquarters Washington DC<br>
> >&gt;355 PM EDT Thu Jan 22 2015<br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;TO:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Subscribers:<br>
> >&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Family of Services<br>
> >&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - NOAA Weather Wire Service<br>
> >&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Emergency Managers Weather
> Informa=
> >tion Network<br>
> >&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - NOAAPORT<br>
> >&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Other NWS Partners and NWS
> Employees=
> ><br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;From:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Tim McClung<br>
> >&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Chief, NWS Science Plans Branch<br>
> >&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Office of Science and
> Technology<br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;SUBJECT:=C2=A0 Change of the MADIS Distribution Services effective<br>
> >&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Wednesday, January 21, 2015<br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;Starting on Wednesday, January 21, 2015, beginning at 1200<br>
> >&gt;Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), all MADIS distribution services<br>
> >&gt;(LDM, web services, and FTP) have new NCO access points.<br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;The MADIS LDM servers at <a href=3D"http://ldm.madis-data.noaa.gov";
> tar=
> >get=3D"_blank">ldm.madis-data.noaa.gov</a> and ldm.madis-<br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"http://data.nws.noaa.gov";
> target=3D"_blank">data.nws.noaa.go=
> >v</a> at GSD and the NWS TOC will be changed to:<br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"http://ldm.madis.ncep.noaa.gov";
> target=3D"_blank">ldm.madis.=
> >ncep.noaa.gov</a><br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;The MADIS web services being provided at<br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"https://madis-data.nws.noaa.gov"; target=3D"_blank">
> https://m=
> >adis-data.nws.noaa.gov</a><br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"https://madis-data.noaa.gov"; target=3D"_blank">
> https://madis=
> >-data.noaa.gov</a><br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;will be replaced with the following services at<br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov";
> target=3D"_blank">https://=
> >madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov</a><br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;MADIS surface dumps:<br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/public/sfcdumpguest.html";
> t=
> >arget=3D"_blank">
> https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/public/sfcdumpguest.html<=
> >/a><br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/public/sfcdump.html";
> target=
> >=3D"_blank">https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/public/sfcdump.html</a><br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/public2/sfcdump.html";
> targe=
> >t=3D"_blank">https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/public2/sfcdump.html
> </a><br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/research/sfcdump.html";
> targ=
> >et=3D"_blank">https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/research/sfcdump.html
> </a><br=
> >>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/noaa/sfcdump.html";
> target=
> >=3D"_blank">https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/noaa/sfcdump.html</a><br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;MADIS surface hydological dumps:<br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"
> https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/public/hydrodumpguest.html"=
> > target=3D"_blank">
> https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/public/hydrodumpguest.h=
> >tml</a><br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/public/hydrodump.html";
> targ=
> >et=3D"_blank">https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/public/hydrodump.html
> </a><br=
> >>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/public2/hydrodump.html";
> tar=
> >get=3D"_blank">https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/public2/hydrodump.html
> </a><=
> >br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/research/hydrodump.html";
> ta=
> >rget=3D"_blank">https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/research/hydrodump.html
> </a=
> >><br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/noaa/hydrodump.html";
> target=
> >=3D"_blank">https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/noaa/hydrodump.html</a><br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;MADIS surface display:<br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/MadisSurface";
> target=3D"_bl=
> >ank">https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/MadisSurface</a><br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;MADIS MAP/CAP displays:<br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/cap";
> target=3D"_blank">http=
> >s://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/cap</a><br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;The MADIS public FTP access points websites: pftp.madis-<br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"http://data.noaa.gov"; target=3D"_blank">data.noaa.gov</a>
> an=
> >d <a href=3D"http://pftp.madis-data.nws.noaa.gov"; target=3D"_blank">
> pftp.ma=
> >dis-data.nws.noaa.gov</a> will be changed to<br>
> >&gt;the new NCEP ftp access point:<br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"http://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov";
> target=3D"_blank">madis-dat=
> >a.ncep.noaa.gov</a><br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;The MADIS restricted FTP access is now provided through web<br>
> >&gt;services on the NCO MADIS systems. Please contact madis-<br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:support@xxxxxxxx";>support@xxxxxxxx</a> if you need
> he=
> >lp with this transition.<br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;The MADIS teams at GSD and NCO have tried an ensure all firewall<br>
> >&gt;rules are in place for users but need to work with the users to<br>
> >&gt;verify that data ingest to user sites is not interrupted during<br>
> >&gt;the operational transition.<br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;The current operational instance of MADIS running at GSD and the<br>
> >&gt;NWS Telecommunication Operation Center (TOC) are schedule to be<br>
> >&gt;decommissioned starting March 31, 2015, at which time users that<br>
> >&gt;have not transitioned will no longer be able to receive MADIS<br>
> >&gt;data. Please work with us to help avoid data disruptions to your<br>
> >&gt;sites.<br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;If you have any questions or concerns please, contact<br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:madis-support@xxxxxxxx";>madis-support@xxxxxxxx
> </a>.<b=
> >r>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;If you have technical comments or questions, please contact:<br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;Steven Pritchett<br>
> >&gt;NWS OST MADIS Program Manager<br>
> >&gt;NOAA/NWS/OST/PPD Science Plans Branch<br>
> >&gt;Silver Spring, MD 20910<br>
> >&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:Steven.pritchett@xxxxxxxx";>
> Steven.pritchett@xxxxxxxx<=
> >/a><br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;National Public Information Statements are online at:<br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://www.weather.gov/os/notif.htm";
> target=3D"=
> >_blank">http://www.weather.gov/os/notif.htm</a><br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;$$<br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Kevin W. Thomas &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:
> k=
> >wthomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">kwthomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
> >&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
> >&gt;<br>
> >&gt;&gt; Please do.<br>
> >&gt;&gt;<br>
> >&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D=3D kwthomas =3D=3D<br>
> >&gt;&gt;<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;MADIS was transferred from NWS TOC to NWS IDP. I can send
> you =
> >the<br>
> >&gt;&gt; announcement tomorrow, if you need info on how to switch
> over.<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;John Kelley<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;NOAA/NOS/MMAP<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;Sent from my iPhone<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Apr 2, 2015, at 7:47 PM, Kevin W. Thomas &lt;<br>
> >&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:kwthomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ">kwthomas@xxxxxxxxxx=
> >s.ou.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Hi...<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I just discovered my LDM MADIS datafeed stopped right
> aro=
> >und 12Z<br>
> >&gt;&gt; yesterday.<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I have two machines running LDM.=C2=A0 Both have the
> same=
> > problem.<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Does anyone else have problems?=C2=A0 Has there been a
> ch=
> >ange that I hear<br>
> >&gt;&gt; about?<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Thanks!<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Kevin W. Thomas<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Center for Analysis and Prediction of
> Storms=
> ><br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 University of Oklahoma<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Norman, Oklahoma<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Email:=C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:
> kwthomas@ou.e=
> >du">kwthomas@xxxxxx</a><br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; ldm-users mailing list<br>
> >&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> >nidata.ucar.edu</a><br>
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> >&gt;&gt;<br>
> >&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
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> ></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
> >
> >--001a113a9a605665cc0512c6fef1--
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“Big whorls have little whorls,
That feed on their velocity;
And little whorls have lesser whorls,
And so on to viscosity.”
Lewis Fry Richardson (1881-1953)
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