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Hi Carissa, After more investigation, this looks just like a silly European limiting data issue. In short, the WMO Additional Dataset (the only one that seems to be flowing over NOAAport) has 13 variables and provides data at 24h timesteps to 168 hrs. The WMO Public (available only through FTP as far as I can tell) has 5 variables at 24h timesteps to 240. So, you can take peanuts to 240h or the almonds to 168h. A sample of the public data following WMO format can be found here: ftp://data-portal.ecmwf.int/20170107120000/ Probably no need to even try to add this to NOAAport as a simple directory clone via wget only takes a few seconds on a good internet connection... Best, __ Dr. Vittorio (Victor) A. Gensini Associate Professor Meteorology College of DuPage President, Chicago Chapter of the American Meteorological Society 425 Fawell Blvd. Glen Ellyn, IL 60137 Office: Berg Instructional Center (BIC) 3503 ph: +1 (630) 942-3496 http://weather.cod.edu/~vgensini ________________________________ From: Carissa Klemmer - NOAA Federal <carissa.l.klemmer@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 8:59 AM To: Gensini, Vittorio Cc: ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: CFSv2 0.5 degree Hi Vittorio, Lets talk ECMWF first. We pull in the 2.5 deg from the GTS, and I agree I see strange behavior with the end of the forecast hours. They seem to jump from 168 to 240 - rec 974:2736756:date 2017010812 PRMSL kpds5=2 kpds6=1 kpds7=0 levels=(0,0) grid=11 sfc 168hr fcst: rec 977:2745297:date 2017010812 PRMSL kpds5=2 kpds6=1 kpds7=0 levels=(0,0) grid=2 sfc 168hr fcst: rec 979:2750991:date 2017010812 PRMSL kpds5=2 kpds6=1 kpds7=0 levels=(0,0) grid=2 sfc 240hr fcst: rec 987:2773767:date 2017010812 PRMSL kpds5=2 kpds6=1 kpds7=0 levels=(0,0) grid=1 sfc 240hr fcst: If you know the missing WMO headers we can request that they get added to NOAAPORT. Carissa Klemmer NCEP Central Operations Dataflow Team Lead 301-683-3835 On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Gensini, Vittorio <gensiniv@xxxxxxx<mailto:gensiniv@xxxxxxx>> wrote: Hi Carissa, Happy new year! I wanted to ping you again re: the 0.5 degree CFSv2 data. Also, something I just realized this morning... Re: ECMWF grib1 data coming over the WMO/HDS feed... I see multiple (3?) grids coming over HDS, but none of them have data for forecast hour 240 (which should be the extent of the ECMWF public data). They all truncate at forecast hour 168. It appears that a lot of the data found here *is* on the feed, but there is also a bunch missing, especially in re: to the ensemble fields. ftp://data-portal.ecmwf.int/ Basically, same results using: WMO ^H..... ECMF ([0-3][0-9])([0-2][0-9]) FILE /home/data/models/ecmwf/(\1:yy)(\2:mm)\1\2_ecmwf.grb and... HDS grib/ecmwf/ECMWF_14./..../(..)(..)(....)(....)/F(...) FILE /home/data/models/ecmwf/\2\3\4F\5.ecmwf The latter just matches more grids as I have a wildcard in after the "_14". Let me know if it is possible to get those fields over NOAAport, else I will just script a download for forecast hour 240. Best, __ Dr. Vittorio (Victor) A. Gensini Associate Professor Meteorology College of DuPage President, Chicago Chapter of the American Meteorological Society 425 Fawell Blvd. Glen Ellyn, IL 60137 Office: Berg Instructional Center (BIC) 3503 ph: +1 (630) 942-3496 http://weather.cod.edu/~vgensini ________________________________ From: Gensini, Vittorio Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 8:00 AM To: Carissa Klemmer - NOAA Federal Subject: Re: CFSv2 0.5 degree Hi Carissa, That's not a problem. Thanks for touching base with me. Best, -- Dr. Vittorio (Victor) A. Gensini Associate Professor Meteorology College of DuPage 425 Fawell Blvd. Glen Ellyn, IL 60137 Office: Berg Instructional Center 3503 ph: +1 (630) 942-3496 http://weather.cod.edu/~vgensini On Nov 28, 2016, at 6:10 AM, Carissa Klemmer - NOAA Federal <carissa.l.klemmer@xxxxxxxx<mailto:carissa.l.klemmer@xxxxxxxx>> wrote: Hi Victor, I've got a few high profile projects that have to wrap up by the end of the year. Are there any objections if I please put this on my new year list of requests to visit? Carissa Klemmer NCEP Central Operations Dataflow Team Lead 301-683-3835 On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Rebecca Cosgrove - NOAA Federal <rebecca.cosgrove@xxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Victor. Let me pull in Carissa on this because she'll be better able to dive into what's possible with the CFS and NOMADS. Carissa -- Victor is on the Unidata UserCommittee that I go to Boulder for. And you emailing me reminds me that we figured out the issue that you had reported to Unidata about a few of the RAP grids going funky in terms of feed type and I need to follow up and make the necessary change to put it back to the original feed type. But Tom and Jeff wanted to warn you all before we made the change. Becky On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Gensini, Vittorio <gensiniv@xxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Becky! Hope this e-mail finds you doing well. Say, most of the 6-hrly 3-D CFSv2 data (i.e., callibration climatologies, etc.) found here: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/data-access/model-data/model-datasets/climate-forecast-system-version2-cfsv2#CFSv2 Operational Forecasts have a lat/lon grid spacing of 0.5 degree (I think the actual native model resoultion is even higher than that!). I see only the 1.0 degree data on NOMADS: http://nomads.ncep.noaa.gov/pub/data/nccf/com/cfs/prod/cfs/ Any chance the 0.5 degree data is available anywhere in real time? I see that the first link does have a delayed 0.5 degree feed here: http://nomads.ncdc.noaa.gov/modeldata/cfsv2_forecast_6-hourly_9mon_pgbf/2016/201611/ Finally, the NOMADS grib2 filters that do exist for the 1 degree data are only available for member #1 of the 4 member CFSv2 ensemble: http://nomads.ncep.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/filter_cfs_pgb.pl For example: http://nomads.ncep.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/filter_cfs_pgb.pl?dir=%2Fcfs.20161111%2F12 Any chance that all 4 members can be added with the 0.5 degree resolution? This would *greatly* help for subseasonal forecasting efforts. I know you are busy, but I really appreciate you taking the time to read this! Best, __ Dr. Vittorio (Victor) A. Gensini Associate Professor Meteorology College of DuPage President, Chicago Chapter of the American Meteorological Society 425 Fawell Blvd. Glen Ellyn, IL 60137 Office: Berg Instructional Center (BIC) 3503 ph: +1 (630) 942-3496<tel:%2B1%20%28630%29%20942-3496> http://weather.cod.edu/~vgensini -- Carissa Klemmer NCEP Central Operations Dataflow Team Lead 301-683-3835
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