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Alright, good to know. We will plan accordingly. Thanks for looking into it. -Mike ====================== Mike Zuranski Meteorology Support Analyst College of DuPage - Nexlab Weather.cod.edu ====================== On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Pete Pokrandt <poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Ok, so the question that I posed to the NOAA contacts was: > > > [pete] > > The question has come up on the Unidata LDM-Users mailing list as to whether > there are any plans to replace the GINI imagery that we currently get for > GOES-East over NOAAPORT with a similar product. > > Unidata is planning to make something available, but that will be via the > IDD on the internet, not NOAAPORT the satellite feed. IDD sites with slower > internet connections may not be able to keep up with these, but those with a > NOAAPORT dish, would be able to grab whatever comes in from that w/o > bandwidth restrictions. > > I am aware of the sectorized netcdf4 GOES16 products that will be coming > over NOAAPORT - as far as you know, are there any plans to also send out > GINI or AREA files? I doubt it, but just figured I'd check. > > > > > > The response, as I figured is that no, there will be no GINI or AREA files > coming over NOAAPORT for GOES 16 or any of the later GOES products, only > ever netcdf4. Specifically: > > [noaa] > -------- > I am not sure what you mean by "replace". We do not have plans to distribute > GINI images for GOES16. The GINI format will not be used for the new > satellites. NESDIS has transitioned to netcdf4 for the GOES-R class of > satellites. > > On NOAAPORT, there are multiple channels. The current GINI images are on the > GOES channel (pid 102). This includes data for both GOES13 and GOES15. We > have been evaluating GOES16 data for the last few months on the new GRE > channel (pid 108). This data has been available for everyone to evaluate and > test with local software. Due to the increased data volume for the new > satellites, the East and West data will be separated. Once GOES-S/17 is > active, that data will be on the GRW channel (pid 107). > > So, after January 2, GOES-East data will only be available from GOES16 on > the GRE channel in netcdf4. Later in 2018, when GOES17 is operational, a > similar transition will take place for GOES-West. At that point, the GINI > format will no longer be used, after GOES15 is retired. > > > > So, if you are on a slow network connection and depend on NOAAPORT, you'll > need to adapt and use the netcdf4 data. There will be some probably AREA > format files sent out over the IDD by Unidata, but if that's more bandwidth > than you have, you'll need to be seective on what you request, or work with > the netcdf4 files. > > > Pete > > > > -- > Pete Pokrandt - Systems Programmer > UW-Madison Dept of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences > 608-262-3086 - poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > ________________________________ > From: zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx <zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Mike > Zuranski <zuranski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 12:35 PM > > To: Pete Pokrandt > Cc: Arthur A Person; ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > support-idd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [ldm-users] GOES-16 to GOES East switchover > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Pete Pokrandt <poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Just to be clear, Unidata has nothing to do with, and minimal if any input >> on what goes over the NOAAPORT satellite. That's entirely NOAA/NCEP/NWS >> decided. > > That was my understanding, just figured it wouldn't hurt to make that > statement out loud. We rely on NOAAPORT pretty heavily here. > > >> Through the Users committee, we do have some contacts, and they do ask our >> input and we can make suggestions, but the final decision on what goes out >> over NOAAPORT is theirs. I'll touch base with one of our contacts and ask >> if >> they she knows of any plans to put anything other than the netcdf4 files >> on >> NOAAPORT. > > Great, thank you very much. > > -Mike > > > ====================== > Mike Zuranski > Meteorology Support Analyst > College of DuPage - Nexlab > Weather.cod.edu > ====================== > > >> >> >> Pete >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Pete Pokrandt - Systems Programmer >> UW-Madison Dept of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences >> 608-262-3086 - poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx <zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Mike >> Zuranski <zuranski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:56 AM >> To: Pete Pokrandt >> Cc: Arthur A Person; ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; >> support-idd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: Re: [ldm-users] GOES-16 to GOES East switchover >> >> Hey Pete, >> >> Thanks for the update. >> >> re: >>> Is anyone out there currently using the GINI imagery that comes in over >>> NOAAPORT that could not use similar imagery if it came in in McIDAS AREA >>> format instead? >> >> We do use the GINI imagery, and would eventually need a replacement >> for the GINICOMP imagery. I figured I'd have to mock something up >> myself, but if AREA files came over NOAAPort we could use those. I'm >> saying NOAAPort though because our internet bandwidth can get >> congested at times, so if they come over internet only then I may >> still end up making my own. My two cents anyways. >> >> -Mike >> >> >> ====================== >> Mike Zuranski >> Meteorology Support Analyst >> College of DuPage - Nexlab >> Weather.cod.edu >> ====================== >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Pete Pokrandt <poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >>> Just a quick update on this. I checked in with Tom Yoksas at Unidata to >>> make >>> sure he had seen this. His response: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Is anything happening with AREA or GINI imagery for GOES16 after the >>>> cutover? >>> >>> [Tom] Not yet. On my list of things to do is create some McIDAS scripts >>> that will create sectors of the same coverages that are currently being >>> sent >>> as GINI images in NOAAPort. The format of the new sectors will not be >>> GINI, >>> however, but, rather AREA. Writing the same into the GINI format would >>> entail creating a GINI output ADDE server or a converter from AREA to >>> GINI. >>> I am under the impression that the GREAT majority of Unidata sites that >>> use >>> the GINI imagery being distributed in NOAAPort could handle the same in >>> AREA. Please let me know if you do not think that this is the case. >>> >>> > What idd data feed would you be making those available on? >>> >>> [Tom] I'm thinking the images would be put into NIMAGE or UNIWISC. >>> >>> >>> So, the gist is that Unidata plans to make something available, probably >>> some AREA files, but they probably won't be ready right at the cutover >>> from >>> GOES13 to GOES16. >>> >>> Is anyone out there currently using the GINI imagery that comes in over >>> NOAAPORT that could not use similar imagery if it came in in McIDAS AREA >>> format instead? >>> >>> Pete >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Pete Pokrandt - Systems Programmer >>> UW-Madison Dept of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences >>> 608-262-3086 - poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> <ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Arthur A Person >>> <aap1@xxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 11:07 AM >>> To: ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [ldm-users] GOES-16 to GOES East switchover >>> >>> Hi... >>> >>> With the imminent switchover from GOES-13 to GOES-16 as the GOES EAST >>> operational satellite, >>> does anyone know whether the Unidata McIDAS and GINI imagery will be >>> affected at all, or will >>> this changeover be transparent? >>> >>> Thanks... Art >>> >>> -- >>> Arthur A. Person >>> Assistant Research Professor, System Administrator >>> Penn State Department of Meteorology and Atmospheric Science >>> email: aap1@xxxxxxx, phone: 814-863-1563 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NOTE: All exchanges posted to Unidata maintained email lists are >>> recorded in the Unidata inquiry tracking system and made publicly >>> available through the web. Users who post to any of the lists we >>> maintain are reminded to remove any personal information that they >>> do not want to be made public. >>> >>> >>> ldm-users mailing list >>> ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> For list information or to unsubscribe, visit: >>> http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/mailing_lists/
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