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Nothing beats a good Daryl LDM-users rant in the morning. He never lets me down! Imagine my utter surprise when I did what Daryl said and I found products I didn't know were being sent over NOAAport. Then, I got curious and instead of using the "NEXRAD" feedtype, I used "ANY". That's when I was shocked to find several products being sent under the HRS feed that were completely undocumented by the NWS, and were needed! I alerted Steve Emmerson, who put out a fix for it. 6.13.16 has it all sorted out now. I'll point out that this thinking goes for any product. If there's a product you think should be there that isn't coming in, and you know you're getting the entire feed, use a request of "ANY" on that header. Rarely, it's an LDM bug, but like the example above, it can happen where a product shows up on an unexpected feedtype. Gilbert > On Mar 4, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Herzmann, Daryl E [AGRON] <akrherz@xxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > Good morning, > > I'd like to chime on the topic of "best practice for pqact entries". For the > WMO header found in products, there's a general form for the entries found: > > TTAAII CCCC DDHHMI > > When there's a string found in the line below the WMO header that is six or > so characters, this "PIL" is appended to LDM product name in the form like so: > > TTAAII CCCC DDHHMI /pPILXXX > > Summary: I *do not* trust the TTAAII value and only sparingly use it within a > pqact entry, but instead fully trust the /pPILXXX section. > > In December 2015, I meet with the NWS Data Management folks expressing > interest in quality controlling the CCCC portion of the WMO header. Can you > imagine that it is sometimes wrong? Well, it has been 6+ years now, hundreds > of emails, and I'm still not done getting them to correct issues with it. As > an example of how painful the rabbit hole is, NWS Cheyenne KCYS was issuing > TAFs for 3 sites using KOAX as the CCCC. This took 8 months to fix and I am > still unsure if it is fully fixed. > > I have not even attempted automated quality control of the TTAAII, nor > bugging NWS to fix it. Another story. I actually did attempt to get NWS to > fix the TTAAII in the case of a product that wasn't using 6 characters for > the TTAAII, can you imagine that it is sometimes only 5? That request was > rejected. Anyway, this value used to be more rigorously set, but is now > more arbitrary than ever. So in the original example below. > > NEXRAD ^SDUS[2357]. .... ([0-3][0-9])([0-2][0-9])([0-6][0-9]).*/p(...)(...) > > I would only trust the SDUS and drop any checks on the other TTAAII fields. > Instead, put your limiters into the /p section. > > NEXRAD ^SDUS.. .... > ([0-3][0-9])([0-2][0-9])([0-6][0-9]).*/p(N0Q|N0B|N0G|Nwhatever)(...) > > Oh, there are examples in the TTAAII, where the AA is wrong, but I have > ranted/whined enough already. > > daryl > > ________________________________________ > From: ldm-users <ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Gilbert > Sebenste <gilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 9:54 AM > To: Daniel Vietor - NOAA Affiliate > Cc: LDM-Users; Mike Voss > Subject: Re: [ldm-users] NEXRAD ID changes?? > > If you have LDM version 6.13.16, this shouldn't be happening. A bug fix was > applied to ensure that everything NEXRAD3 is supposed to be there. > > Gilbert > > On Mar 4, 2022, at 9:15 AM, Daniel Vietor - NOAA Affiliate via ldm-users > <ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I see a lot of them on the HDS feedtype. So I request both NEXRAD and HDS. > > Dan. > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 9:04 AM Mike Voss > <mike.voss@xxxxxxxx<mailto:mike.voss@xxxxxxxx>> wrote: > Hi All, > For me at least, some of my NEXRAD products stopped filing correctly > yesterday at 18Z using this generic pattern match: > > NEXRAD ^SDUS[2357]. .... ([0-3][0-9])([0-2][0-9])([0-6][0-9]).*/p(...)(...) > FILE -overwrite -close > nexrad/NIDS/\5/\4/\4_(\1:yyyy)(\1:mm)\1_\2\3 > > as a test, when I changed to this: > NEXRAD ^SDUS66 .... > > I started getting my "N0Q" products for MUX station. > > Also, I stopped receiving the FNEXRAD NEXRCOMP products. Is it possible > these things are related such that the NEXRCOMP depends on the NIDS product > ID's and somehow a recent change (yesterday) cause this to break? > > thanks for any insights, > -MIke > _______________________________________________ > NOTE: All exchanges posted to Unidata maintained email lists are > recorded in the Unidata inquiry tracking system and made publicly > available through the web. 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