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Re: [ldm-users] Is Synoptic BUFR data available over noaaport?

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charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Mike,<div><br></div><div>Excellent 
summarization and very much appreciated!</div><div><br 
id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">- Ryan</div><div 
dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Mar 19, 2024, at 11:35 AM, Mike 
Zuranski &lt;mzuranski@xxxxxxxx&gt; 
wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div 
dir="ltr">Howdy all,<div><br></div><div>Here's a little clarification on those 
WMO headers, or what they should represent anyways:</div><div><a 
href="https://www.weather.gov/tg/tablea";>https://www.weather.gov/tg/tablea</a></div><div><br></div><div>For
 reference, the 6 character WMO header can be broken down thusly (T1 T2 A1 A2 
ii).&nbsp; On the above page I is for "Binary observation - BUFR" so that's 
what we're expecting.&nbsp; You can click those table links to the right on 
that row to understand what the remaining characters 
mean...</div><div><br></div><div>When T1 is I, T2 designates the data 
type.&nbsp; S is for surface/sea level, U is for upper air (soundings).&nbsp; 
So given this, Greg's pattern is matching surface data and not 
soundings.</div><div><br></div><div>A1 depends on if we're looking at surface 
or upper air (<a 
href="https://www.weather.gov/tg/tablec6";>https://www.weather.gov/tg/tablec6</a>).&nbsp;
 IUS for example should be "Radiosondes/pibal reports" while ISS would be for 
"Floating platforms (ship, bouy[sic], etc.)" originating 
data.</div><div><br></div><div>A2 starts to define regions, this is the first 
character that represents any form of location (at least for T1=I 
products&nbsp; <a 
href="https://www.weather.gov/tg/tablec3";>https://www.weather.gov/tg/tablec3</a>).&nbsp;
 Other regional information can be derived from the originating office 
identifier.</div><div><br></div><div>ii can be many things, it's common to be a 
form of a region code but that does not seem to be the case here.&nbsp; On that 
first table page all that's listed is **, and the only worthwhile 
explanation&nbsp;is on page 59 of this:&nbsp;<a 
href="https://library.wmo.int/records/item/35800-manual-on-the-global-telecommunication-system";>https://library.wmo.int/records/item/35800-manual-on-the-global-telecommunication-system</a>&nbsp;
 Short version is I _think_ these are simply unique identifiers for these types 
of reports, but they may have other meaning depending on the issuing 
agency.&nbsp; Either way though, I don't _think_ this is region/location info 
as that all seems to be defined in A2.&nbsp; Note the level of confidence in my 
"voice" however.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Devin:</div><div>I 
believe what you are looking for would be ^I[SU].... and you can narrow it down 
from there to meet your 
needs.</div><div><br></div><div>Greg:</div><div>^IS[IMN] looks like it will 
only get a few sources of surface obs, for your missing data have you tried 
opening that up to anything (^IS....)?<br></div><div><br clear="all"><div><div 
dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div 
dir="ltr"><div>For what it's worth I think these only come over the HDS feed, 
at least that's where I've always seen 
them.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Hopefully that info helps more 
than confuses, let me know if I should clarify 
anything.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>-Mike</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><b>Mike
 Zuranski</b></div><div>Data Engineer II<br></div><div>NSF Unidata Program 
Center</div><div>University Corporation for Atmospheric 
Research</div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div 
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 
11:29 AM Greg Thompson &lt;<a href="mailto:gthompsn@xxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">gthompsn@xxxxxxxx</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote 
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid 
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div>Stonie,</div><div>I 
am not sure about your pattern with first letters "IU" regardless of Japan or 
Sweden. The one I posted starting with "IS" is responsible for what I have 
showing in the attached graphic of stations.&nbsp; Note the USA has METARs, not 
SYNOPs as we know and I really am perplexed why I don't have any showing in 
Australia,&nbsp;Japan, India, and parts of 
Russia.</div><div><br></div><div>Greg</div><div><div>&lt;50a27e0c-63e8-4544-aa1b-37d9633f5c8b.png&gt;</div><br></div></div><br><div
 class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 
10:08 AM Stonie Cooper &lt;<a href="mailto:cooper@xxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">cooper@xxxxxxxx</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote 
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid 
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I believe the second alpha 
"S" is surface, and "U" is sounding.<div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" 
class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)"><b>Stonie Cooper</b></div><div 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">Software Engineer III<br></div><div 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">NSF Unidata Program Center</div><div 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">University Corporation for Atmospheric 
Research</div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><i><font color="#888888">I 
acknowledge that the land I live and work on is the t</font><span 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">raditional home of 
The&nbsp;</span></i></font><font color="#888888" face="arial, 
sans-serif"><i>Chahiksichahiks (</i></font><i 
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">Pawnee), The&nbsp;</span></i><font 
color="#888888" face="arial, sans-serif"><i>Umoⁿhoⁿ (</i></font><i 
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">Omaha), and The&nbsp;</span></i><font 
color="#888888" face="arial, sans-serif"><i>Jiwere (</i></font><i 
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">Otoe).</span></i></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div
 class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 
11:06 AM Greg Thompson &lt;<a href="mailto:gthompsn@xxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">gthompsn@xxxxxxxx</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote 
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid 
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div>For years, I have 
been using this pattern to get SYNOP in bufr.</div><div>&nbsp;ANY    
^IS[IMN]... .... ([0-3][0-9])([0-2][0-9])</div><div><br></div></div><br><div 
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 
10:05 AM Stonie Cooper &lt;<a href="mailto:cooper@xxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">cooper@xxxxxxxx</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote 
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid 
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Additionally, I see Sweden's 
WMO headers for their surface synoptic BUFR files 
are:<div><br></div><div>IU(K|S|)C8[01]<br>IUSX40<br></div><div><br 
clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)"><b>Stonie Cooper</b></div><div 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">Software Engineer III<br></div><div 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">NSF Unidata Program Center</div><div 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">University Corporation for Atmospheric 
Research</div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><i><font color="#888888">I 
acknowledge that the land I live and work on is the t</font><span 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">raditional home of 
The&nbsp;</span></i></font><font color="#888888" face="arial, 
sans-serif"><i>Chahiksichahiks (</i></font><i 
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">Pawnee), The&nbsp;</span></i><font 
color="#888888" face="arial, sans-serif"><i>Umoⁿhoⁿ (</i></font><i 
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">Omaha), and The&nbsp;</span></i><font 
color="#888888" face="arial, sans-serif"><i>Jiwere (</i></font><i 
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">Otoe).</span></i></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div
 class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 
10:56 AM Stonie Cooper &lt;<a href="mailto:cooper@xxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">cooper@xxxxxxxx</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote 
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid 
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Devin - BUFR surface files 
generally&nbsp;come in under the WMO header of ^I[SU](..)(01) - but not 
always.&nbsp; HDS is the normal feedtype, but that is dependent upon the 
insertion entity/agency and what they assign at insert.<div><br 
clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)"><b>Stonie Cooper</b></div><div 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">Software Engineer III<br></div><div 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">NSF Unidata Program Center</div><div 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">University Corporation for Atmospheric 
Research</div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><i><font color="#888888">I 
acknowledge that the land I live and work on is the t</font><span 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">raditional home of 
The&nbsp;</span></i></font><font color="#888888" face="arial, 
sans-serif"><i>Chahiksichahiks (</i></font><i 
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">Pawnee), The&nbsp;</span></i><font 
color="#888888" face="arial, sans-serif"><i>Umoⁿhoⁿ (</i></font><i 
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">Omaha), and The&nbsp;</span></i><font 
color="#888888" face="arial, sans-serif"><i>Jiwere (</i></font><i 
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span 
style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">Otoe).</span></i></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div
 class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 
10:48 AM Devin Eyre &lt;<a href="mailto:Devin.Eyre@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">Devin.Eyre@xxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote 
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid 
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>




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Are the synoptic observation BUFR files available over NoaaPort?&nbsp; If so, 
which feed would it be in, and what would the pattern be to match them?</div>
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The files at <a href="https://tgftp.nws.noaa.gov/SL.us008001/DF.bf/DC.intl/"; 
id="m_1358990034008999474m_-4196360700453042624m_-1415536382691599986m_1213409338227157012m_-2027820035433947428m_-4046802855691193060m_7434771950572311385LPlnk447979"
 target="_blank">
https://tgftp.nws.noaa.gov/SL.us008001/DF.bf/DC.intl/</a>&nbsp;are what we 
want.</div>
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