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Re: [netcdf-java] NetCDF-Java, CF Grid Projections and Ellipsoid parameters

  • To: Don Murray <Don.Murray@xxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [netcdf-java] NetCDF-Java, CF Grid Projections and Ellipsoid parameters
  • From: Tom Kunicki <tkunicki@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:39:12 -0500
Hi Don,

We have a NetCDF-Java GeoTIFF IOSP that we use internally at CIDA to access 
GeoTIFF WCS responses using the NetCDF-Java CDM.  I've hesitated to release it 
externally due to the number dependencies it requires and the rather, err, 
hack-ish, EPSG DB I'd implemented yo back it.  To provide reasonable support 
for GeoTIFFs that one may see in-the-wild the tool does need a access to a full 
EPSG DB to resolve all the potential CRS *and* their components.  GeoTIFFs have 
a rich mechanism for describing CRS which require implementations to have 
access to a lot that CRS data.  I'd planned to provide hooks for EPSG lookups 
using GeoTools or Geotk but never found the time.  

Now that NetCDF-Java is mavenized the dependency tracking/resolution for 
developers that want to use this should be a little easier.  Maybe I can clean 
the GeoTIFF IOSP up and put it out there...

Tom

On Jun 12, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Don Murray wrote:

> Hi Tom-
> 
> I am interested in what you describe below and am wondering if anyone else is 
> working on a GeoTools to netCDF CDM Scientific Data types library.   In 
> particular, I'd like to take advantage of GeoTools' GeoTIFF capabilities and 
> would like to read a GeoTIFF into a CDM GeoGrid so I could view/manipulate 
> them in the Integrated Data Viewer (IDV).  A key piece of that would be to 
> support the projections which I believe is what you are describing below.
> 
> Am I reading that correctly and/or is anyone else working on a GeoTools to 
> netCDF library?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Don
> 
> On 6/11/11 9:54 PM, Tom Kunicki wrote:
>> As a follow up to my posting of the NetCDF-Java/CF projection to
>> GeoTools/GeoAPI converter utility posting.  As background we are
>> doing geoprocessing of vector geometries obtained from Shapefiles or
>> GML (often via WFS).  Given the large number of CRS that maybe used
>> with these vector geometries (relative to what's available with CF)
>> and the desire to perform the calculations in the CRS used with the
>> vector geometries we generate a GeoTools/GeoAPI CRS instance so that
>> we can transform the CF grids into the vector geometry CRS.
>> 
>> An issue we have with NetCDF-Java is that not the NetCDF-Java
>> Projection instance isn't passing through the ellipsoid parameters
>> for Projection implementations that don't have transformation to
>> ellipsoids implemented (even though the CF spec.  Ideally we could
>> extract these from Projection.getProjectionParameters() so that we
>> can generate a fully parameterized GeoAPI CoordinateReferenceSystem
>> instance which will then use these parameters.  Given the abstraction
>> of GridDatatype/GridCoordSystem is very difficult to extract these
>> parameters from the original CF grid_mapping.  Could we get these
>> parameters (semi_major_axis, semi_minor_axis and inverse_flattening)
>> in the Projection instance for all Projections if they are in the
>> grid_mapping for the grid?
>> 
>> One thing i've been hoping to do is implement a
>> ProjectionProviderFactory type architecture for NetCDF-Java that
>> would allow the implementation of NetCDF-Java Projection instances
>> using GeoTools or Geotk.  One could register a factory using a
>> service registration mechanism then get back Projection
>> implementations back by their API of choice.  This would remove the
>> need for NetCDF-Java to re-implement projection transformations that
>> are already implemented in GeoTools or Geotk.  The CRSUtility class I
>> provided earlier could be the foundation/crosswalk for a
>> GeoToolsProjectionProviderFactory.  One can easily generate
>> transforms and their inverses once the CoordinateReferenceSystem
>> instance is generated.  These transforms can the be wrapped in a
>> NetCDF-Java Projection instance  This would also allow CF to
>> incorporate new projections and minimize implementation time in
>> NetCDF-Java.
>> 
>> Tom Kunicki Center for Integrated Data Analytics U.S. Geological
>> Survey 8505 Research Way Middleton, WI  53562
>> 
>> 
>> 
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