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Hi John, thank you for your answer. To clarify, I was not trying to realize long-term persistence of Array objects. I just needed short term persistence in order to use ehcache to cache arrays and spill over to disk in case of memory exhaustion. Ehcache does not seem to have a straightforward way of plugging in a customized serialization mechanism apart from using the Java default one, which is why I had to stick to that. It would probably also be possible to use other serialization libraries like Kryo or, as you mentioned "protocol buffers" within the writeExternal/readExternal methods. I ended up implementing a wrapper object for Array that handles the serialization and deserialization, maybe not in the most efficient way, but it currently meets my requirements and looks quite simple: public class SerializableArray implements Externalizable { ... @Override public void writeExternal(ObjectOutput oo) throws IOException { if(array!=null) { oo.writeObject(DataType.getType(array.getElementType())); oo.writeObject(array.getShape()); oo.writeObject(array.getStorage()); } } @Override public void readExternal(ObjectInput oi) throws IOException, ClassNotFoundException { array = Array.factory((DataType)oi.readObject(), (int[])oi.readObject(), oi.readObject()); } } And it passes all tests. So I am currently good to go with that solution. Thanks again for the pointers! Nils Am 13.11.2012 22:35, schrieb John Caron: > Hi Nils: > > Default Java serialization has serious problems. See chapter 11 of > "Effective Java" for details. Early versions of Netcdf-Java had lots > of serialization, but I have removed it mostly. > > If you want to do serialization, I would create specialized objects > that take the original object as an argument, and transfer the contents. > > Recently Ive been using Google's "protocol buffer" library to do the > encoding, and I like that approach. Fast, and the serialized objects > are readable from other languages besides java. > > May seem like more work, but in the long run, IMO default java > serialization is not a good persistence solution except in certain > limited cases. > > John > > On 11/13/2012 2:13 AM, Nils Hoffmann wrote: >> Hi netcdf-java developers, >> I recently had the requirement of serializing/deserializing a >> ucar.ma2.Array instance for local client-side caching >> and was wondering why the current implementation (4.2.32) does not >> implement java.io.Serializable or java.io.Externalizable? >> Are there any particular reasons for this, or am I overlooking >> something? >> >> In order to check whether any severe problems would wait down the road, >> I created a delegate for ucar.ma2.Array and wrote an associated unit >> test, showing that it is possible to successfully serialize and >> deserialize arbitrary arrays. I would however prefer to be able to >> extend ucar.ma2.Array directly, which is currently not possible >> unless I create the new class within the ucar.ma2 namespace. This is due >> to three methods in >> ucar.ma2.Array that are using default visibility (abstract Array >> createView(Index index), abstract void copyFrom1DJavaArray(IndexIterator >> iter, Object javaArray), >> and abstract void copyTo1DJavaArray(IndexIterator iter, Object >> javaArray)). Their visibility effectively disallows extension >> of ucar.ma2.Array from outside the ucar.ma2 package. >> >> Would it be possible to set the visibility of these methods to public in >> the netcdf-java api without other negative side effects or would anyone >> propose a different approach? >> >> Maybe someone else has experience with Array serialization and would be >> interested in sharing or providing me some further pointers? >> >> I would greatly appreciate any help on this. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Nils >> > > _______________________________________________ > netcdf-java mailing list > netcdf-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > For list information or to unsubscribe, visit: > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/mailing_lists/ -- Nils Hoffmann phone: +49-521-106-4342 Bielefeld University room: U10-144 Faculty of Technology, Genome Informatics P.O. Box 10 01 31 33501 Bielefeld, Germany http://www.cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de/~hoffmann
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