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Re: [thredds] Question about NARR-A Monthly Complete PoR Aggregation NetcdfSubset

  • To: Glenn Rutledge <glenn.rutledge@xxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [thredds] Question about NARR-A Monthly Complete PoR Aggregation NetcdfSubset
  • From: Dan Swank <dan.swank@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 15:42:45 -0500
This aggregation is nothing more than a TDS software aggregation
   of the narrmon-a_221_*  files.
The Vegetation Type parameter is a static fixed field:
http://nomads.ncdc.noaa.gov/thredds/catalog/narr/catalog.html?dataset=narr/AWIP32-fixed.grb
I do not know why it would even appear in the narrmon-a files.
ALL fields in the narrmon fields and files are averages of the
<days_in_month>*8
    fields in that month.  Even for fields where avg() doesn't make sense,
    such as precipitation rate or anything with time in the denominator of
the unit
    - which are typically more useful as a sum() statistical operation.

          -Dan

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Glenn Rutledge <glenn.rutledge@xxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Hello Cedric,
> Myself or one of the NOMADS Team will reply to your questions soon- were
> looking into it.
> Glenn- @ NOMADS
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Cédric David <
> cedric.david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Dear THREDDS user group,****
>>
>> I’m unsure whether or not this is the right place to send these
>> questions.  If not, I’d love some advice on who to direct them to.****
>>
>> I’ve been getting North American Regional Reanalysis (NARR) data from
>> http://nomads.ncdc.noaa.gov/thredds/narr.html using the netCDFSubset
>> tool.  I am running some analysis on these netCDF files with focus on
>> Precipitation, Evaporation, Runoff, Vegetation and Surface Air
>> Temperature.  I have therefore downloaded the following variables:****
>>
>> **·         **Evaporation (time, y, x)****
>>
>> **·         **Subsurface_runoff_baseflow (time, y, x) ****
>>
>> **·         **Surface_runoff_non-infiltrating (time, y, x) ****
>>
>> **·         **Total_precipitation (time, y, x)****
>>
>> **·         **Vegetation  (time1, y, x)****
>>
>> **·         **Temperature_height_above_ground (time1,
>> height_above_ground, y, x)****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I’m interested in a 20-year average of these fields (from 1980-01-01-0000
>> to 2000-12-31-2100) so I figured I’d use the “NARR-A Monthly Complete PoR
>> Aggregation” and download monthly averages in one unique file which I’d
>> then use to compute a 20-year average.  The process ran fine but I’m
>> curious about the netCDF file that I was able to download.  The first four
>> variables (Evaporation, Subsurface_runoff_baseflow,
>> Surface_runoff_non-infiltrating and Total_precipitation) indeed have
>> several monthly grids.  However the last two variables (Vegetation and
>> Temperature_height_above_ground) only have one unique grid each.  ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> So I downloaded several 3-hourly NARR-A files from the NetcdfSubset tool
>> that I picked randomly from the entire dataset:****
>>
>> **·         **narr-a_221_19790101_0000_000.grb.nc ****
>>
>> **·         **narr-a_221_19800101_0000_000.grb.nc****
>>
>> **·         **narr-a_221_20001231_2100_000.grb.nc****
>>
>> **·         **narr-a_221_20100101_0000_000.grb.nc****
>>
>> **·         **narr-a_221_20111031_2100_000.grb.nc****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I realized that the Vegetation variable had the same exact grid for all
>> these files.  So it makes sense to only have one grid in the aggregation .
>> However, the Temperature_height_above_ground grid varies with time.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> So here are my two questions:****
>>
>> **1)      **Is the NARR Vegetation variable static?****
>>
>> **2)      **How is the Temperature_height_above_ground grid in the
>> NARR-A Monthly Complete PoR Aggregation computed?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated!!!****
>>
>> Many thanks,****
>>
>> Cedric ****
>>
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