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Steve, I am running one of those Sun 8/24 cards that lets you run 8-bit programs separate from 24. McIDAS and GARP would compete with each other, but Netscape runs in full 24 bit mode and does not affect the 8-bit. Xdpyinfo is below. I reran the frame buffer config program and confirmed that I am in 8/24 bit mode. I confirmed this by opening four copies of Netscape (running in full color mode). I can still start McIDAS and GARP, but still can't use McIDAS with the full 128 gray levels or view sat pics with GARP. I have not made any changes that I am aware of, yet aomething seems to be consuming colors that the 8-bit programs need. /export/home/weather% ntl graphic, satellite, radar -- 33 128 16 Request total # of colors = 177 Current available system colors = 140 /export/home/weather% I even tried running in 8-bit only mode and same thing(see above) Any ideas where to start looking? Thanks, Robert name of display: psnldm:0.0 version number: 11.0 vendor string: Sun Microsystems, Inc. vendor release number: 3610 maximum request size: 262140 bytes motion buffer size: 256 bitmap unit, bit order, padding: 32, MSBFirst, 32 image byte order: MSBFirst number of supported pixmap formats: 5 supported pixmap formats: depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32 depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32 depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32 depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32 depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32 keycode range: minimum 8, maximum 132 focus: window 0x4c00009, revert to PointerRoot number of extensions: 21 AccessX Adobe-DPS-Extension DOUBLE-BUFFER DPSExtension GLX MIT-SCREEN-SAVER MIT-SHM MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD Multi-Buffering SHAPE SUN_ALLPLANES SUN_DGA SUN_OVL SUN_SME SYNC SolarisIA XC-MISC XIE XInputDeviceEvents XInputExtension XTEST default screen number: 0 number of screens: 1 screen #0: dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (289x217 millimeters) resolution: 90x90 dots per inch depths (3): 1, 8, 24 root window id: 0x29 depth of root window: 8 planes number of colormaps: minimum 1, maximum 1 default colormap: 0x20 default number of colormap cells: 256 preallocated pixels: black 0, white 1 options: backing-store YES, save-unders YES largest cursor: unlimited current input event mask: 0x38003f KeyPressMask KeyReleaseMask ButtonPressMask ButtonReleaseMask EnterWindowMask LeaveWindowMask SubstructureNotifyMask SubstructureRedirectMask FocusChangeMask number of visuals: 5 default visual id: 0x22 visual: visual id: 0x22 class: PseudoColor depth: 8 planes available colormap entries: 256 red, green, blue masks: 0x0, 0x0, 0x0 significant bits in color specification: 8 bits visual: visual id: 0x23 class: GrayScale depth: 8 planes available colormap entries: 256 red, green, blue masks: 0x0, 0x0, 0x0 significant bits in color specification: 8 bits visual: visual id: 0x24 class: StaticColor depth: 8 planes available colormap entries: 256 red, green, blue masks: 0x7, 0x38, 0xc0 significant bits in color specification: 8 bits visual: visual id: 0x25 class: StaticGray depth: 8 planes available colormap entries: 256 red, green, blue masks: 0x0, 0x0, 0x0 significant bits in color specification: 8 bits visual: visual id: 0x26 class: TrueColor depth: 24 planes available colormap entries: 256 per subfield red, green, blue masks: 0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff significant bits in color specification: 8 bits Replied: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 13:35:35 -0700 Replied: weather <address@hidden> Replied: address@hidden From address@hidden Mon Nov 22 13:27:19 1999 Received: from psnldm.nsbf.nasa.gov (psnldm.nsbf.nasa.gov [192.149.107.23]) by unidata.ucar.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13345 for <address@hidden>; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 13:27:19 -0700 (MST) Organization: . Keywords: 199911222027.NAA13345 Received: from psnldm.nsbf.nasa.gov (psnldm.nsbf.nasa.gov [192.149.107.23]) by psnldm.nsbf.nasa.gov (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA02883 for <address@hidden>; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:27:07 GMT Message-Id: <address@hidden> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:27:07 +0000 (GMT) From: weather <address@hidden> Reply-To: weather <address@hidden> Subject: more agin..more on not enough colors with GARP To: address@hidden MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 6xnRUZje1OdLY1Umolxj8Q== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.4 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc I even rebooted the machine and same thing happens. The card is running in 8/14 mode and Netscape runs fine. Thanks, Robert Mullenax From address@hidden Mon Nov 22 12:02:11 1999 Received: from psnldm.nsbf.nasa.gov (psnldm.nsbf.nasa.gov [192.149.107.23]) by unidata.ucar.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10721 for <address@hidden>; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 12:02:10 -0700 (MST) Organization: . Keywords: 199911221902.MAA10721 Received: from psnldm.nsbf.nasa.gov (psnldm.nsbf.nasa.gov [192.149.107.23]) by psnldm.nsbf.nasa.gov (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA00454 for <address@hidden>; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 19:01:59 GMT Message-Id: <address@hidden> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 19:01:59 +0000 (GMT) From: weather <address@hidden> Reply-To: weather <address@hidden> Subject: more on not enough colors with GARP To: address@hidden MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: s55cvTw3nnkaeQ3PES2U2A== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.4 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc I double checked and McIDAS is set to use 64 gray level colors, so it too is not seeing enough colors, so apparently I have an Xserver problem somewhere. I can't find any gplt routines or anything except normal processes/ldm running in background. There are no message queues stuck in system, and no gplt routines. Robert Mullenax From address@hidden Mon Nov 22 11:53:07 1999 Received: from psnldm.nsbf.nasa.gov (psnldm.nsbf.nasa.gov [192.149.107.23]) by unidata.ucar.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10499 for <address@hidden>; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 11:53:06 -0700 (MST) Organization: . Keywords: 199911221853.LAA10499 Received: from psnldm.nsbf.nasa.gov (psnldm.nsbf.nasa.gov [192.149.107.23]) by psnldm.nsbf.nasa.gov (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA29949 for <address@hidden>; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:52:55 GMT Message-Id: <address@hidden> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:52:55 +0000 (GMT) From: weather <address@hidden> Reply-To: weather <address@hidden> Subject: cannot view sat images with Garp..can't allocate colors To: address@hidden MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 7qvtSd2szRJY94fsTMeHVA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.4 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc I have nothing open on my system, just running CDE/Xsun. Yet when I try to view Sat pics with GEMPAK I get: G A R P - v2.02 starting... Error: could not allocate image colors. GEMPAK: [GEMPLT -64] NCBALOC - Color bank not allocated. Error: could not allocate image colors. Error: could not allocate image colors. Error: could not allocate image colors. Error: could not allocate image colors. Error: could not allocate image colors. G A R P - v2.02 exiting... ntl also complains that it does not have enough colors to start (request 177, have 1400 I can view the images fine with McIDAS, and normally if I really don't have enough colors, McIDAS says it can't start the GUI. McIDAS is running normally. I have an 8bit/24bit PGX32 frame buffer on our Ultrasparc. Any web server images are created using Xvfb on screen 1. I have logged out an in a couple of times, but no luck. Any ideas? Thanks, Robert Mullenax