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Jeff, Maybe you can contact Jeff Masters|Glen Brady at University of Michigan to see if their NOAAport ingestor is up and running. If it is, then see if UM can feed thelma as a backup? It sounds like SSEC is going to be down awhile and alden is unresponsive. Thanks, Robb... =============================================================================== Robb Kambic Unidata Program Center Software Engineer III Univ. Corp for Atmospheric Research address@hidden WWW: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/ ===============================================================================