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Hi all, It appears someone has figured out G16 and GEMPAK: https://satelliteliaisonblog.com/tag/goes-16/ At any rate, I too, would like to see the NIMAGE feed EAST-CONUS with the previous products offerred by G13. All of my GEMPAK satellite scripts are currently broken. vg On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Tom Yoksas <yoksas@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Phil, Rodrigo, and fellow gembudians, > > On 01/12/2018 07:38 AM, Phil Birnie wrote: > >> Thanks for all of the feedback, all. - same Tom, would be interested but >> we understand that this is a big undertaking. Same as Rodrigo — for us, >> just the ability to produce VIS, IR and WV imagery would be fine as we >> disseminate a few products to the general public and for internal >> instructional purposes. >> > > This past Monday, January 8, I replaced the GOES-13 image content in > Unidata-Wisconsin (IDD feed type UNIWISC aka MCIDAS) GOES-East sectors > with similar bands from GOES-16. In order to provide an impact-free > transition, I left the images labeling as being from GOES-13. Since the > images are being created by McIDAS remapping (IMGREMP) of GOES-16 Full > Disk imagery into existing GOES-13 sectors, the navigation for the > images is still that for GVAR, not the Fixed Grid projection of GOES-16. > GEMPAK, McIDAS, IDV, McIDAS-V and presumably AWIPS users should be able to > use these images with no changes to their setup (i.e., no adjustments > to GEMPAK tables, etc.). > > I view the remapping of GOES-16 imagery into GVAR sectors as being a > stop gap measure designed to lessen the impact of GOES-13 being > turned off. I want to open a full discussion with LDM/IDD > consumers of satellite imagery for what the next steps should be: > e.g., send out select bands from the GOES-16 SCMI imagery that > is being distributed in NOAAPort; create image sectors that match > the spatial extents for the GOES-13 imagery that was sent in NOAAPort > in GINI format, etc. > > Some questions to be answered before we proceed with the creation of > new image content using GOES-16 data are: > > - does GEMPAK support the Fixed Grid projection used in all GOES-16 > GRB images? > > I _think_ the answer to this is no, Fixed Grid is not supported in > GEMPAK, but I am not sure. If it is not, new image sectors can > be remapped into a projection that GEMPAK supports. > > - which bands would GEMPAK users like to see in the new content? > > Recall that GVAR GOES platforms have 5 imager channels (bands), > while GOES-R has 16 ABI channels. > > - do GEMPAK users need to be able to extract valid calibrations > from the imagery (e.g., TEMPerature for IR bands and Albedo/ > reflectance from VISible bands)? > > If yes, this may mean that non-GOES-16 calibration information > will need to be added to the new image sectors. > > - what LDM/IDD datastream should these image sectors be sent in? > > Comment(s): > > - creation of image sectors that are usable by GEMPAK is not > a daunting task ** as long as the output format for the > new sectors is McIDAS AREA ** > > Creation of new sectors in GINI format would require new program > development while creation in AREA format simply requires the > creation of scripts that run appropriate McIDAS commands. > > Your input is important. Please let us know what option would be > best for your operations! > > Cheers, > > Tom > > From: Rodrigo Mathias <rodrigowind.meteoro@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto: >> rodrigowind.meteoro@xxxxxxxxx> >> Reply: Rodrigo Mathias <rodrigowind.meteoro@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto: >> rodrigowind.meteoro@xxxxxxxxx> >> Date: January 11, 2018 at 9:12:04 PM >> To: gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto: >> gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Subject: [gembud] Fwd: 20180111: Displaying GOES-16 Data >> >> Hi Tom! >>> >>> We are very interested in GOES-16 on Gempak. We have been trying to >>> migrate to AWIPS II, but it is not possible yet and we use GOES daily on >>> Gempak for maritime forecasts in Brazil. We are worried about the coming >>> end of GOES-13 imagery. It is not necessary all the products and channels, >>> but the enough of basic IR, VIS and WV imagery. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Rodrigo >>> >>> ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ---------- >>> De: "Tom Yoksas" <> >>> Data: 11 de jan de 2018 6:50 PM >>> Assunto: [gembud] 20180111: Displaying GOES-16 Data >>> Para: "Mullenax, Robert R. (WFF-820.0)[ORBITAL SCIENCES CORPORATION]" < >>> robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx <mailto:robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx>>, "Devin >>> Eyre" <Devin.Eyre@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Devin.Eyre@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>, "Phil >>> Birnie" <me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>, " >>> gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>" < >>> gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>> Cc: >>> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> On 01/11/2018 01:40 PM, Mullenax, Robert R. (WFF-820.0)[ORBITAL >>> SCIENCES CORPORATION] wrote: >>> >>> I was going to try that when I return from the Ice, wasn't >>> sure it would work. >>> >>> >>> This brings up a good question in my mind: does GEMPAK support the >>> Fixed >>> Grid projection that is used for all products distributed in the GRB >>> (GOES ReBroadcast)? If not, McIDAS can remap the images into >>> projections supported by GEMPAK, but this would entail some loss of >>> information. >>> >>> re: >>> >>> What is AWS? >>> >>> >>> Amazon Web Services - Amazon's cloud. All GOES-16 data has been >>> moved >>> up to AWS since the satellite was turned on. >>> >>> If anyone is not on the ldm-users email list, please be aware that we >>> are distributing ALL of the GOES-16 imagery and products we are >>> receiving here in UCAR. The imagery and products are under the DIFAX >>> feed type, but this will be renamed to SATELLITE in an upcoming >>> LDM release (while keeping DIFAX as a secondary name, of course). >>> >>> A much bigger question for the community as a whole is if there is >>> a desire for us (Unidata) to distribute GOES-16 imagery in a format >>> that is readily usable by GEMPAK (e.g., AREA, NOT GINI!)? If the >>> answer is yes, what sectors are of interest (NB: not all bands!!). >>> We have been discussing using McIDAS to turn the NOAAPort-delivered >>> SCMI netCDF4 images into McIDAS AREAs and providing them in a >>> satellite image based feed type like UNIWISC, NIMAGE, or possibly >>> SATELLITE. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ------------ >>> *From:* Devin Eyre [Devin.Eyre@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:Devin.Eyre@xxxxxxxxxxxx>] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2018 2:27 PM >>> *To:* Mullenax, Robert R. (WFF-820.0)[ORBITAL SCIENCES >>> CORPORATION]; Phil Birnie; gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> *Subject:* Re: [gembud] Displaying GOES-16 Data >>> >>> Using mcidas, you can make area files using the GOES-16 netcdf >>> files, if you use the data that's on AWS. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ------------ >>> *From:* gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> <gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> on behalf of >>> Mullenax, Robert R. (WFF-820.0)[ORBITAL SCIENCES CORPORATION] >>> <robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx <mailto:robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx>> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2018 2:22 PM >>> *To:* Phil Birnie; gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> *Subject:* Re: [gembud] Displaying GOES-16 Data >>> Display of GOES-16 isn't supported in GEMPAK according to the >>> link Unidata sent out the other day. Only McIDAS-X, McIDAS-V, >>> IDV, and AWIPS2. >>> >>> It is something I will have to tackle here in a few weeks >>> myself as we haven't moved to AWIPS2. I would assume that with >>> GEMPAK not being developed anymore at NCEP (AFAIK) that it >>> would be difficult for Unidata to tackle that likely big task, >>> but maybe Michael can chime in on that. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Robert Mullenax >>> >>> >>> >>> Please note new email address: robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx> >>> Robert Mullenax >>> Senior Principal Meteorologist, Orbital ATK/CSBF >>> 1510 E. FM 3224 >>> Palestine, Texas 75802 >>> 903-723-8037 <tel:903-723-8037> >>> robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx <mailto:robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ------------ >>> *From:* gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> [gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>] on behalf of Phil >>> Birnie [me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:13 PM >>> *To:* gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> *Subject:* [gembud] Displaying GOES-16 Data >>> >>> Hi Gembuds, >>> >>> I am successfully ingesting the GOES-16 data but am having >>> difficulty displaying it. I’m assuming I probably have to run >>> it through (or perhaps create) some kind of decoder. Has >>> anyone had success that might be able to provide a few pointers? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> - Phil Birnie >>> Ohio State University, Dept of Geography Volunteer >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NOTE: All exchanges posted to Unidata maintained email lists are >>> recorded in the Unidata inquiry tracking system and made publicly >>> available through the web. 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