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I would second Victor's nomination of EAST-CONUS, and add the composite feeds NHEM-COMP and SUPER-NATIONAL if possible (not sure how easy it is to stitch together GOES-16 with GOES-15, though). Not the highest priority given it is January, but the tropics sectors PR-NATIONAL and PR-REGIONAL would be nice as well.
I hope to get all of our satellite imagery on our website driven by Python eventually, but the addition of these sectors would be a great interim measure.
Thanks, Steve On 01/14/2018 03:18 PM, Victor Gensini wrote:
Hi all,It appears someone has figured out G16 and GEMPAK: https://satelliteliaisonblog.com/tag/goes-16/ <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsatelliteliaisonblog.com%2Ftag%2Fgoes-16%2F&data=02%7C01%7Csgdecker%40envsci.rutgers.edu%7Cceddb273c4bb4e03716508d55b8c00a5%7Cb92d2b234d35447093ff69aca6632ffe%7C1%7C1%7C636515579265449705&sdata=aZCPZ8UJHh4SzHCvBtwBf6Hlx4%2BXLVabujmsbOLDlEM%3D&reserved=0>At any rate, I too, would like to see the NIMAGE feed EAST-CONUS with the previous products offerred by G13. All of my GEMPAK satellite scripts are currently broken.vgOn Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Tom Yoksas <yoksas@xxxxxxxx <mailto:yoksas@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:Hi Phil, Rodrigo, and fellow gembudians, On 01/12/2018 07:38 AM, Phil Birnie wrote: Thanks for all of the feedback, all. - same Tom, would beinterested but we understand that this is a big undertaking. Same as Rodrigo — for us, just the ability to produce VIS, IRand WV imagery would be fine as we disseminate a few products to the general public and for internal instructional purposes. This past Monday, January 8, I replaced the GOES-13 image content in Unidata-Wisconsin (IDD feed type UNIWISC aka MCIDAS) GOES-East sectors with similar bands from GOES-16. In order to provide an impact-free transition, I left the images labeling as being from GOES-13. Since the images are being created by McIDAS remapping (IMGREMP) of GOES-16 Full Disk imagery into existing GOES-13 sectors, the navigation for the images is still that for GVAR, not the Fixed Grid projection of GOES-16. GEMPAK, McIDAS, IDV, McIDAS-V and presumably AWIPS users should be able to use these images with no changes to their setup (i.e., no adjustments to GEMPAK tables, etc.). I view the remapping of GOES-16 imagery into GVAR sectors as being a stop gap measure designed to lessen the impact of GOES-13 being turned off. I want to open a full discussion with LDM/IDD consumers of satellite imagery for what the next steps should be: e.g., send out select bands from the GOES-16 SCMI imagery that is being distributed in NOAAPort; create image sectors that match the spatial extents for the GOES-13 imagery that was sent in NOAAPort in GINI format, etc. Some questions to be answered before we proceed with the creation of new image content using GOES-16 data are: - does GEMPAK support the Fixed Grid projection used in all GOES-16 GRB images? I _think_ the answer to this is no, Fixed Grid is not supported in GEMPAK, but I am not sure. If it is not, new image sectors can be remapped into a projection that GEMPAK supports. - which bands would GEMPAK users like to see in the new content? Recall that GVAR GOES platforms have 5 imager channels (bands), while GOES-R has 16 ABI channels. - do GEMPAK users need to be able to extract valid calibrations from the imagery (e.g., TEMPerature for IR bands and Albedo/ reflectance from VISible bands)? If yes, this may mean that non-GOES-16 calibration information will need to be added to the new image sectors. - what LDM/IDD datastream should these image sectors be sent in? Comment(s): - creation of image sectors that are usable by GEMPAK is not a daunting task ** as long as the output format for the new sectors is McIDAS AREA ** Creation of new sectors in GINI format would require new program development while creation in AREA format simply requires the creation of scripts that run appropriate McIDAS commands. Your input is important. Please let us know what option would be best for your operations! Cheers, Tom From: Rodrigo Mathias <rodrigowind.meteoro@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:rodrigowind.meteoro@xxxxxxxxx>> <mailto:rodrigowind.meteoro@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:rodrigowind.meteoro@xxxxxxxxx>> Reply: Rodrigo Mathias <rodrigowind.meteoro@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:rodrigowind.meteoro@xxxxxxxxx>> <mailto:rodrigowind.meteoro@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:rodrigowind.meteoro@xxxxxxxxx>> Date: January 11, 2018 at 9:12:04 PM To: gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Subject: [gembud] Fwd: 20180111: Displaying GOES-16 Data Hi Tom! We are very interested in GOES-16 on Gempak. We have been trying to migrate to AWIPS II, but it is not possible yet and we use GOES daily on Gempak for maritime forecasts in Brazil. We are worried about the coming end of GOES-13 imagery. It is not necessary all the products and channels, but the enough of basic IR, VIS and WV imagery. Regards, Rodrigo ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ---------- De: "Tom Yoksas" <> Data: 11 de jan de 2018 6:50 PM Assunto: [gembud] 20180111: Displaying GOES-16 Data Para: "Mullenax, Robert R. (WFF-820.0)[ORBITAL SCIENCES CORPORATION]" <robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx <mailto:robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx> <mailto:robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx <mailto:robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx>>>, "Devin Eyre" <Devin.Eyre@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Devin.Eyre@xxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:Devin.Eyre@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Devin.Eyre@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>>, "Phil Birnie" <me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>, "gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>" <gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> Cc: Hi Guys, On 01/11/2018 01:40 PM, Mullenax, Robert R. (WFF-820.0)[ORBITAL SCIENCES CORPORATION] wrote: I was going to try that when I return from the Ice, wasn't sure it would work. This brings up a good question in my mind: does GEMPAK support the Fixed Grid projection that is used for all products distributed in the GRB (GOES ReBroadcast)? If not, McIDAS can remap the images into projections supported by GEMPAK, but this would entail some loss of information. re: What is AWS? Amazon Web Services - Amazon's cloud. All GOES-16 data has been moved up to AWS since the satellite was turned on. If anyone is not on the ldm-users email list, please be aware that we are distributing ALL of the GOES-16 imagery and products we are receiving here in UCAR. The imagery and products are under the DIFAX feed type, but this will be renamed to SATELLITE in an upcoming LDM release (while keeping DIFAX as a secondary name, of course). A much bigger question for the community as a whole is if there is a desire for us (Unidata) to distribute GOES-16 imagery in a format that is readily usable by GEMPAK (e.g., AREA, NOT GINI!)? If the answer is yes, what sectors are of interest (NB: not all bands!!). We have been discussing using McIDAS to turn the NOAAPort-delivered SCMI netCDF4 images into McIDAS AREAs and providing them in a satellite image based feed type like UNIWISC, NIMAGE, or possibly SATELLITE. Cheers, Tom------------------------------------------------------------------------*From:* Devin Eyre [Devin.Eyre@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Devin.Eyre@xxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:Devin.Eyre@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Devin.Eyre@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>] *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2018 2:27 PM *To:* Mullenax, Robert R. (WFF-820.0)[ORBITAL SCIENCES CORPORATION]; Phil Birnie; gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> *Subject:* Re: [gembud] Displaying GOES-16 Data Using mcidas, you can make area files using the GOES-16 netcdf files, if you use the data that's on AWS.------------------------------------------------------------------------*From:* gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> <gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> on behalf of Mullenax, Robert R. (WFF-820.0)[ORBITAL SCIENCES CORPORATION] <robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx <mailto:robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx> <mailto:robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx <mailto:robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2018 2:22 PM *To:* Phil Birnie; gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> *Subject:* Re: [gembud] Displaying GOES-16 Data Display of GOES-16 isn't supported in GEMPAK according to the link Unidata sent out the other day. Only McIDAS-X, McIDAS-V, IDV, and AWIPS2. It is something I will have to tackle here in a few weeks myself as we haven't moved to AWIPS2. I would assume that with GEMPAK not being developed anymore at NCEP (AFAIK) that it would be difficult for Unidata to tackle that likely big task, but maybe Michael can chime in on that. Regards, Robert Mullenax Please note new email address: robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx <mailto:robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx> <mailto:robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx <mailto:robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx>> Robert Mullenax Senior Principal Meteorologist, Orbital ATK/CSBF 1510 E. FM 3224 Palestine, Texas 75802 903-723-8037 <tel:903-723-8037> <tel:903-723-8037 <tel:903-723-8037>> robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx <mailto:robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx> <mailto:robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx <mailto:robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx>>------------------------------------------------------------------------*From:* gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> [gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>] on behalf of Phil Birnie [me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>] *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:13 PM *To:* gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> *Subject:* [gembud] Displaying GOES-16 Data Hi Gembuds, I am successfully ingesting the GOES-16 data but am having difficulty displaying it. 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